Good gasifier stove?

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Good gasifier stove?

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Someone has a nice gasifier stove for hiking/camping? Why you think your model is the best?

I am looking for medium small, reasonable light but very good in terms of combustion.

I don't care if fully DIY or only modded.
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I actually have one of these artifacts.

I think I bought it, more than 10 years ago, and I think I only ever tested it once. Or maybe zero times?

I recall it had batteries, for to power a small fan, but the fan might have only been needed for startup... Or it might have been this thing only worked well with *forced* convection.

I guess I should find that thing, and clean the dust out of it, if I want to answer those questions for certain.

But before I do, maybe the web has some answers:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gasifier+camp+stove&ia=web

https://www.build-a-gasifier.com/gasifier-camp-stoves/

https://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Wo ... amp-Stove/
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Thanks. Yes, i own a good bunch of them myself (4-5 in fact) and i use them like 20 times per year at least...
Currently, my favourite is a chinese model and copy of the Lixada Wood Gasifier Stove.
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I learned how to get it going very fast and can even restock it more or less on-the-fly.

But:
- For super cold and damp weather
- when i dont want to bring wood along from home
- want a super got flame for grilling or stirfying
i often revert to a powered model:
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But as those stoves pop up more and more i think there are some i havent seen and wonder if someone found a stove unknown to me which is super good. Maybe you think yours is better. Tell me why you think yours is better. I may miss a point ;)
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Well, I cannot say if my stove is better... but I can describe it in other ways. I can tell you who made it, and what they used to call it.

It is a "Spenton Woodgas Campstove - Model XL" and it was made by Spenton LLC, an American company that went out of business in 2013.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130806195 ... enton.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20080213023 ... stove.com/

Also I can tell you about the physical size of this thing, because I measured the size of it, with a tape measure, and I found its approximately cylindrical dimensions to be:

Outside: (d=16 cm, h=22 cm)
Inside: (d=12 cm, h=14 cm)

with uncertainty of about +or- 0.5 cm, for all of those measurements.

Also it is made out of some kind of stainless steel, and it appears to be held together by aluminum rivets.

I was contemplating drilling out the rivets, and replacing them with machine screws, mostly just because I want to see the insides... which requires taking it apart.

Also I made a PDF copy of the paper manual, which honestly does not say that much, but it leads me to a question about files, and file-hosting...

What is diy-forums.net doing for file hosting, for pictures and PDFs, and things like that? Do we have space for those sort of things, or are there some reliable (and free?) file hosters we are using, like imgur, or some place like that?
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Yeah, I still have the Spenton stove, its always worked very well for us.

I noticed though in the local BBQ supply store a new balcony/deck/camp "fire pit" which was definitely a TLUD style fire, like the Spenton. I made a wood gas heater which could kick out something like 5kW when the blower was on full.
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Care to share an image or details from this DIY?
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Back before I stuffed my lower back I went camping a lot.
Tried a few of then then common fan forced and standard stoves.
All I wanted was a really basic thing that is able to make a nice hot soup in a single person serve.
Problem was that basically all of these stoves are designed to heat a cup of water per filling and not too much more.
As for the fan forced ones I have to say they were dirt cheap, often to the point where using without electricity and lower heat meant melting the plastic from those fans.
Had one though with a heat shield sort of things where the air went through two compartments before hitting the inside.
Still can't recommend and fan forced one to run without juice.

I then made a few hobo stoves of various sizes and have to say they do work rather well if you feed them the right fuel.
What really got me though was some old bloke I met night fishing.
He was already there when I got to the place and I wondered a bit about that pipe behind his chair.
Wasn't a rod holder and certainly not to be used for anything obvious, so I ginroed it and went down a bit further after the usual greeting ceremony.
After dawn I started my little camp fire to keep my warm and give me some light.
The bloke had wood as well and I see smoke but no fire....
Not too much interest by the fish for my bait so i wnet over for another chat.
What he showed me then was so dirt simple that I still wonder today why I never considered it.

He had two holes in the ground, about 30cm in diameter and roughly twice as deep.
Joined with a little tunnel at the bottom.
He said in some soils it helps to push a metal pipe through to prevent it from collapsing.
First hole is empty and open.
Sedond hole has metal lid from some old paint can with a rock on it.
That pipe was actually a chimney connected with an elbow to the top of the seond hole, just deep enough to be level with the ground and kept in place with little side stands I did not notice before.
No light to distract the fish and more than enough heat to keep the back warm, if in doubt move the chair the other way to wam your front during a cold nite the guy laughed.
Back to your problem:
This two hole system was of of course adopted and I use it whenver the soil allows for it.
Mostly without a chimney though.
But it is well capable of heating my soup as I can simply make the hole deep enough to store enough wood for one round or two.
Keeps the wind out as well and on a windy day you can create a nice wall aorund one half of the first hole to push more air through for added heat.
Or simply put a little 5V fan with a lid on it ;)
No need for a stove in that case.

I tried to find the Youtube link for a fan forced stove I really liked back in the day - home made, but can't find it.
Designed like the classic double can hobo stove but with the air inlet being a single hole on the side.
Into this hole you could plug the fan attachment.
To keep it short the guy in the video used these ribbed aluminum pipes that look like a metal version of the drain hose on a washing machine.
More surface means shorter pipe possible to keep the plasic fan cold.
The pipe with fan an battery pack can be placed inot the (cold) stove for transport.
The major difference to the common approch was he used a puch to create the outlet holes from the inside of the lid.
So instead of fitting two can right together, the inner one had a lid with a cutout in the center to allow for holes along the rim.
Once at temp the cutout can be placed in the center and the flames will only come through these burner holes with basically no smoke at all.
Will keep searching for the video....
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